As everyone who is a comedy podcast fan (or in my case, "obsessive") has heard, Marc Maron interviewed Saturday Night Live's Lorne Michaels. Before the episode was announced, I had written a spec script of Marc Maron's television show, Maron, that dealt with Marc's fraught, and well-documented, relationship with SNL. What you are about to read, is that very script. I hope that you enjoy it. Also, I hope that you provide feedback, if you have any.


Maron: “The Podcast”


by Rafferty Thompson



SOPHIE: Pete, I still can’t believe that you just got hired to be on Saturday Night Live!


PETE: I know! It’s a dream come true. I couldn’t have done it without you, baby.


SOPHIE: You’re so sweet! Well, before you’re on SNL, you’re going to be on Marc Maron’s podcast. You’ve got that interview with him later today.


PETE: Yeah, I hope that he doesn’t just ask me if I’m “good,” you know, at the end of our talk. I’d really like for him to tell me I’m “good” sometime during our talk. I want him to feel like I’ve gotten what I deserved.


SOPHIE: Aren’t you scared that he’s going to dig up some dirt from your past? All of his most famous episodes involve his guest admitting to some scandal.


PETE: I’m not scared! Sophie, you’re the one that should be scared: you’ve got that audition for that horror movie today. You’re actually required to be scared!


(both heartily laugh)


PETE: But seriously, I don’t have anything to be worried about. I’ve gotten to where I am because of hard work. I never took any shortcuts or cheated my way into anything.


SOPHIE: But where you’ve gotten might be a problem. Marc Maron might be jealous of you. Everyone knows that he was almost hired on SNL. He’s had six hundred episodes of his podcast and on four hundred of them he’s mentioned his meeting with Lorne Michaels. The odds are that not only will he be talking to you about it, but that he will be talking about it right now!


PETE: Sophie... all of that is between Lorne and Marc. Its got nothing to do with me.


SOPHIE: Yes, but I just hope that it continues to have nothing to do with you.


PETE: Sophie, are you listening to yourself? You’re stressing me out before my big interview. (starts to nervously chuckle) When Marc asks me about the pain in my life, I’ll probably mention this conversation we’re having!


SOPHIE: I’m sorry… I’m sure that it’ll be a great episode.


PETE: Well, let’s hope it’s not too great!


(Pete’s car parks in front of Marc Maron’s house. He walks up to the door)


PETE: (dumbfounded, to himself) Why does Marc have a sign in his yard that says “Beware of Dogs”? I thought that he was cat guy…


(Pete walks up to the door and knocks. A few seconds go by before the door opens, just a crack, because the chain lock on the door is fastened)


MARC: (through the slight opening in the door and behind the locked chain) Who are you?


(Pete chuckles)


MARC: Is this some Mormon Missionary thing?


PETE: (chuckling more softly, nervously) You’re kidding... right?


MARC: So you’re a Jehovah’s Witness?


PETE: I’m Pete Simon... you’re supposed to interview me today...


MARC: Pete Simon? That doesn’t ring any bells.


PETE: I’m not ringing any bells because I knocked, right?


MARC: I’m supposed to interview you? You’re clearly not a comedian with that joke.


PETE: I’m the newest cast member of Saturday Night Live...


MARC: I remember when I used to tell myself that...


PETE: There must be some sort of mix-up. Maybe I should go...


MARC: Yeah.


(Marc closes the door. Pete turns around to walk away. The door opens all of the way)


MARC: Pete, I’m just busting your balls! That’s what comics do: mess with each other. You are a comic, right?


PETE: Yeah, of course. (laughs) Man, you really had me going.


MARC: Yeah, I literally had you going. You were about to leave!


(both of them laugh)


MARC: Lets head to the garage.


(they walk around the side of the house)


MARC: Congrats on SNL. You know that I was almost on SNL, right?


PETE: Yeah, of course.


(cut to Marc and Pete sitting in the garage with headphones on)


MARC: So, when you started out in comedy, who were your guys?


PETE: I mean, Louis CK, Todd Barry, Conan. Basically everyone you’ve interviewed.


MARC: Even Gallagher?


PETE: Oh, yeah, he’ll be really influential in my decision to storm out of here.


(both laugh)


MARC: What’d your old man do for a living?


PETE: My dad liked to call myself a “newspaper distributor.”


MARC: “Newspaper distributor”? What, so he was a paperboy?


PETE: As I like to say onstage, “’Newspaper Distributor’ is just a more adult way of calling yourself a drug dealer!”


(Pete chuckles, Marc cackles)


PETE: But, yeah, my dad was, and still is, a paperboy, basically.


MARC: Does he ride a bike?!?


PETE: (while laughing) Yeah, with a little basket full of papers!


(both laugh)


PETE: But, no, he drives a car to do all of his “newspaper distribution.”


MARC: Oh. So, I know that you joke about it in your act, but did you ever really think that your dad dealt drugs?


PETE: Uhhh... I mean... he worked really weird, late hours, and made A LOT more money than I assumed delivering newspapers would bring in, but... uhhh... yeah, my brother and I would tell everybody at family reunions that our dad sold drugs.


MARC: And how did that make him feel?


PETE: He hated it and probably hates that I’m talking about it right now.


(Pete chuckles and Marc cackles)


MARC: (recapping the conversation) So, your dad throws newspapers, you get into comedy while you’re in college... what was it like when you told your folks- errr... delivered the news...


(Pete chuckles and Marc cackles)


MARC: ... that you were hired to be on Saturday Night Live?


PETE: It was... it was pretty special. I mean, for all of that goofin’ around, goofin’ off-


MARC: Starting rumors about your dad dealing drugs...


(Pete laughs and Marc cackles)


PETE: Yeah! So, for all of that... it was pretty great to deliver such great news.


MARC: Well, congrats on SNL. You know that I was almost on SNL, right?


PETE: (a little confused) Yeah, of course.


MARC: But, yeah, I had the opportunity of interviewing with Lorne Michaels. I know my listeners have heard this story before-


PETE: Yeah, I heard this from you BEFORE WE STARTED RECORDING!


(Pete laughs loudly, but tapers off nervously because Marc is coldly staring at him)


MARC: (coldly) That’s really fucking funny.


(Pete is intensely uncomfortable)


MARC: You should get Lorne Michaels to come on my podcast.


PETE: Yeah, I’ll give him a call.


MARC: Do it.


PETE: (smilingly) I will.


(Pete chuckles before a moment of silence)


MARC: Why aren’t you doing it?


PETE: You mean, call him right now?!?


MARC: (yelling) YES!


PETE: But we’re doing a podcast...


MARC: Well, there won’t BE A PODCAST unless you get Lorne Michaels to appear on my show!


PETE: What?


MARC: Make... the... call.


PETE: Uhh... umm... okay.


(Pete fumbles in his pocket, goes to the wrong pocket, and finally gets his phone out)


PETE: Hey, Shelly? (silence) This is Pete Simon. Is Lorne in? (silence) He’s in a meeting? Okay. (silence) Leave a message? Uhh... (Pete looks at Marc) Tell Lorne that Marc Maron wants to talk to him. (quick silence) No, yeah, this is Pete Simon... I just... called to tell him that Marc Maron wants to talk to him. (silence) Okay. Thanks. Bye.


(Pete puts his phone back in his pocket)


PETE: I’m not getting through to Lorne.


MARC: Apparently I’m not getting through to you! Get Lorne on my podcast! And THEN you can be on my podcast!


PETE: I don’t want to be on your podcast! I’m out of here!


(Pete starts to walk out of the garage)


MARC: Okay, Gallagher!


(Pete opens the garage door, walks out and slams the door)


(Pete and Sophie are sitting on the couch again)


SOPHIE: I can’t believe that he’d try to manipulate you into trying to book an interview with your boss! This is exactly what I was worried about!


PETE: Seriously! Maron was acting like a villain in a Mel Gibson movie or something.


SOPHIE: Well, it probably wouldn’t look good for Mel Gibson to have the bad guy in his movie be a Jew.


(both laugh)


PETE: Well, Mel Gibson already did that in The Passion of the Christ. With a lot of Jews, actually, as the enemy.


SOPHIE: So, you’re saying that what’d be worse than Mel Gibson being anti-Semitic, would be if Mel Gibson were repeating himself.


PETE: Sure!


(both laugh)


PETE: Sophie, thank you for making me feel way better. I really don’t know what I’d do without you.


SOPHIE: So, to quote Marc Maron, “we’re good?”


PETE: Of course.


(Pete and Sophie, smile, lean to kiss, until they’re interrupted by Pete’s phone ringing)


SOPHIE: Who’s calling you?


PETE: (shocked) It’s Marc Maron.


SOPHIE: What could he possibly want?


(Pete takes the call)


SOPHIE: Don’t answer it!


PETE: This is Pete Simon speaking.


MARC: It’s Maron.


PETE: (sarcastically) Oh, hey, Marc Maron, let me get Lorne on the line, he’s sitting right next to me. Actually, you know what? I’ll put you on speakerphone.


SOPHIE: (whispering) Wait, should I do a Lorne Michaels impersonation?


MARC: I just wanted to apologize. I’m sorry for how I acted and... I’m sorry for what I did.


PETE: Yeah! That was not cool.


MARC: I know, I know. It’s just... you know, I once had an interview with Lorne Michaels-


PETE: Yeah, Marc! I know! Everyone knows! You need to get over it!


MARC: I do. I didn’t think that I was that guy anymore, but I think that I’m bitter... still!


PETE: Sure seems like it.


MARC: Yeah.


PETE: (sarcastically) So, we good, Marc?


MARC: Well, I hope so. And I hope that you would want to come back to the garage for a do-over.


PETE: Are you kidding me?


MARC: No, I’m not. I let my stupid jealousy get the better of me and I’d like to start over.


PETE: And why should I give you another chance?


MARC: To be honest, you shouldn’t. I did something messed up to you, but I’d like to have you in the garage and talk it out.


(silence on both ends)


PETE: Alright, I’ll do it.


SOPHIE and MARC (at the same time): Really?


PETE: Yeah, really. You think I’m going to pass up the opportunity to be on such a monumental episode of you podcast as this would be?!?


MARC: (cackles) That’s what I like to hear. So, Pete, we good?


PETE: Yeah, Marc. We’re good.


(both hang up)


SOPHIE: Are you kidding me? Why would you allow him another chance after what he did to you?


PETE: Sophie, it’ll be fine. Marc’s not that bad. I’d probably be as bitter as he is if I didn’t get SNL. But, thankfully, I am on SNL. And, I have you.


SOPHIE: Probably not for long.



(both laugh and kiss)


(Marc and Pete are in the garage)


MARC: So, I’d just like to apologize for how awful I was to you.


PETE: It’s okay. All water under the bridge.


MARC: How are you so stable and forgiving? Do you have a wife? A girlfriend? Both?


PETE: (laughs) I have a girlfriend.


MARC: (excitedly) How long have you guys been together?


PETE: Four years, actually.


MARC: Do you love her?


PETE: Yeah! She’s my world.


MARC: Do you ever want to see her alive again?


PETE: (scared) What?


MARC: I said, do you ever want to see your girlfriend alive again?




MARC: My producer has a gun to your girlfriend’s head.


PETE: What?!? You’re joking! You’re just busting my balls, right?


MARC: You want proof? How about we take a listen to the live stream of the podcast my producer is making with your girlfriend.


(Maron hits a key on his laptop, bringing up audio)


SOPHIE: Honey! Just do what he says!


PETE: Sophie!


MARC: Now, here’s what you can do to save your girlfriend’s life: I’m going to ask you if it’s true that you have a history of stealing jokes from other comedians and you’re going to say that it’s true.


PETE: But that’s a lie! I wouldn’t throw my comedy career in the trash by saying something like that!


MARC: Jeez, choosing Saturday Night Live over your girlfriend’s life. And I thought that I was the selfish one.


SOPHIE: Baby, please! Just admit to it! For me!


PETE: But I can’t!


MARC: On the count of “F,” my producer is going to shoot the love of your life.


SOPHIE: (screams) Please! Just do whatever he wants!






(Sophie screams)




(on the audio feed, a gun cocks and Sophie bellows even louder)




PETE: No! Stop it! I’ll do it!


MARC: Brendan, put the gun down.


BRENDAN THE PRODUCER (from the audio feed): Okay, boss.


PETE: (crying) I’ll say whatever you want me to say.


MARC: Okay.


(Marc opens a drawer, pulls out a fat script and throws it on the desk in front of Pete)


MARC: Lets take it from the top.


(scene ends. Pete comes rushing into the home he shares with Sophie. They’re both crying)


PETE: Sophie! Are you okay?!?


SOPHIE: Of course not!


PETE: Everything is going to be fine, so long as we have each other.


SOPHIE: It was so awful! I can't BELIEVE what I just went through!


PETE: I know. It makes me sick to my stomach.


SOPHIE: Why would anybody put someone through all of that?!?


PETE: I know! He’s a monster! I can’t believe that he’d take you hostage and force me to confess to something that I never did!




SOPHIE: What? Hostage?!? You’re sounding like that horror movie I didn’t get the part for.


PETE: Wait, what horror movie?


SOPHIE: That I auditioned for! That I didn’t get the part for! That I’m crying because of! That you never asked, “hey, how did that audition go?” You realize that’s why I’m crying, right?!?


PETE: What?


SOPHIE: It was bad enough putting up with that horrible script, having to scream, (mock screaming) “Just admit to it!” and “Just do whatever he wants!”. But I also had to deal with that God awful casting director... (pauses, trying to remember his name) Brendan... something. He kept making me record screams for him, over and over. And now I have to put up with your garbage?!?


PETE: But... I thought Maron-


SOPHIE: You’re so obsessed with Marc Maron! All week you’ve been talking about him and talking to him!


PETE: But he was going to kill you...


SOPHIE: What are you talking about?!? You know what? I’m done with this! I’m leaving! Hope you had a great episode of whatever that podcast is called!


(Sophie walks out and slams the door behind her)


PETE: (dejected) What... the... fuck?


(a newscast fades in)


NEWSCASTER: So, those are some of the headlines from around the world. Now, we’re going to focus on a bit of comedy. Or should I say, “a stolen bit of comedy?” Newly hired Saturday Night Live castmember, Pete Simon, admitted on the podcast, WTF with Marc Maron, that he’s stolen material from other comedians. Now, Pete Simon is the newly fired castmember of SNL. Lets take a listen to an excerpt from the podcast where Pete Simon confessed to stealing jokes.


(clip from podcast)


MARC: So, I’d be remiss if I didn’t address the rumors that have circulated among comedians. Is it true that you’ve stolen jokes from other comics?


PETE: Uhhh... yeah. It’s true.


MARC: Why’d you do it?


PETE: Because I’m not funny.


MARC: Who are some of the comedians that you stole from?


PETE: Well, that’s the thing: I mainly stole from you.


MARC: From me?!? Why would you steal from me?


PETE: Because, Marc, you’re the funniest comedian of all-time. You’re the envy of anyone who has ever picked up a microphone, let alone anybody who has ever tried to make someone laugh.




MARC: And, to think, that I couldn’t get on SNL, but you could... WITH MY MATERIAL!


PETE: Yeah, I got what you deserved.


MARC: Well, you’ll get what you deserve soon enough.


(back to Newscaster)


NEWSCASTER: Comedians and comedy fans aren’t the only ones praising Marc Maron’s interview skills. Captain Tomlinson of the Los Angeles Police Department has said that Marc Maron would make a great detective...


(clip of LAPD captain talking)


CAPTAIN TOMLINSON: If Mr. Maron’s podcasting skills are any indication of his great potential as an interrogator, then I think that he would make a stellar addition to the LAPD. I have so much faith in him, actually, based upon his interviews with Pete Simon, Carlos Mencia, and to a lesser extent, Parker Posey, that I have made Marc Maron an active-duty detective, effective immediately. In fact, earlier today, I gave him his gun and badge.


(back to Newscaster)


NEWSCASTER: In regards to his dismissal of Pete Simon, Creator and Executive Producer of Saturday Night Live, Lorne Michaels, put out the following statement. “In light of the recent news, we here at Saturday Night Live feel that severing ties with Pete Simon is what is best for the continued integrity of our show. I can state unequivocally that before today, I had never heard of the accusations of comedic plagiarism leveled against Pete Simon, nor had I ever heard of Marc Maron.”


(a gun shot is fired and a TV explodes)


MARC: I’ll get you, Lorne Michaels. Someday, I’ll get you... on the podcast...

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If Subway has "sandwich artists," I believe that Jersey Mike's has "sandwich performance artists." Here are my favorite conversations with Jersey Mike's employees:


1) Jersey Mike's employee: Do you work in this strip mall?

Rafferty: No, I work like a mile away from here.


JM: That sucks.


2) JM: You got anything special going on today?!?

R: No, just work.

JM: You're just like me. I hate the rain.


3) (Jersey Mike's employee puts a slice of cheese on a sandwich after I said, "no cheese.")

R: Hey, I uhhh... said, "no cheese."

JM: This one isn't for you! What are you, like super lactose intolerant?

R: Uhhh... yeah.

JM: (holding up his gloved hands) Will you get sick if my gloves touch cheese and then your sandwich?!?

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"How will 'Mad Men' end?!?"


With my favorite show, Mad Men, ending soon, people have been asking me, "How do you think Mad Men is going to end?!? Do you think Don's going to die? Haven't you ever noticed that in the intro there's a dude falling off of a building?!?"

I honestly don't care about TV fan theories, nor do I understand their creation. Making an elaborate supposition about where a television show will go seems like a lose-lose situation. What happens when you're wrong? You'll probably look like a fool and have definitely wasted your time. And if you're right? If someone tells you a joke and you know what the punchline is going to be by just hearing the set-up, that's an awful joke. So if you're fan theory is correct, you'll have only entertained yourself, because the show clearly didn't entertain you. Thus, all TV fan theories are a waste of time.

So let's just sit back, have a drink, smoke some cigarettes, take an energy serum, watch the end of Mad Men, and leave the worrying about being right or wrong about outcomes to the fools who made March Madness brackets. And don't dress up to watch the show like William Shatner-impersonator, Kevin Pollak.

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I found out that there were people rejected from being in the Manson Family.* Which begs the questions: how low do you have to sink to A) try to join the Manson Family AND B) get rejected from the Manson Family?  What we do know is that Charles Manson tried to console rejects by telling them that Michael Jordan got cut from his high school basketball team.



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Hey, I came up with a new character for my comedy act and was wondering if you could help me identify who the character is.

Please watch!

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1. Read a book, magazine or newspaper


2. Think about something pleasant that happened during the day


3. Set up cheap mouse traps around the house


4. Have that 8th and “final” drink


5. Tell yourself that you’re itchy[1]


6. Dial 911 and hang up

[1] Telling yourself out loud is optional and preferred.

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There remains much debate as to whether or not a joke writer should punctuate the end of a joke with an exclamation point. Though some feel a punchline will be driven home with an exclamation point, others feel that exclamation points should be driven off of a cliff:

“Cut out all these exclamation points. An exclamation point is like laughing at your own joke.”

-F. Scott Fitzgerald

How long do you think F. Scott Fitzgerald debated with himself over whether or not he should end that quotation with an exclamation point? You're telling me that F. Scott Fitzgerald didn't laugh after he came up with that quote? And how many people have said "Eff Scott Fitzgerald!" and laughed at his or her own joke?!?


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Which of these sentences is the lamest?

    A) I'm "in the zone."

    B) I'm in "the zone."

    C) I'm in the "zone."

    D) Olive the above.

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Here are some questions I'd like to ask older generations of Americans:

1. Where were you when JFK was assassinated?

2. What was the political atmosphere like after the March on Washington?

3. It didn't even seem just a little lame when Chubby Checker released "Let's Twist Again"?

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As the theme of the last episode of my podcast dealt with advertising, I tweeted a link to the episode with a hashtag that read, "#Advertising". People I didn't know on Twitter- whose bios described their fascination with online marketing- began to favorite my tweet and follow me. All because I made a dumb meta joke about how I was advertising something about advertising. 

My worst fear is that I'll annoy people with shameless plugs on the Internet, then slip into a coma and someone will make a shameless pull of the plug.

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1. Accidentally putting your own poop in a bag.

2. Constantly mentioning that you have a dog when you're yelled at for petting people.

3. Realizing that a dog's face is mostly nose.

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